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Either that or i'm totally doing probably many things very wrong. I thought it would be nice to have a home server for friends and family. Knew nothing about any of this. started reading. I use an AT&T DSL dynamic net connection. I understood that I needed a web server, a free service like this to deal with my dynamic IP problem and to get a domain name, and a web page for content to start. I set up an account here with the host name http://farside.dyndns.org. Downloaded and installed Abyss web server and started it up. Added the html.index file to the folder they told me to use - tried to navigate to the page using my host address http:\farside.dyndns.org or http://www.farside.dyndns.org or even my IP address that dyndns tells me I have. I always get this error or similar" The webpage at http://74.240.173.194/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address" - I did not do anything to my router.. should I have verified the correct port is being used? Port 80 is it? The Abyss server is using port 80 and when it installed it did not tell me the port was not open or anything like that.

Sorry so long but man i'm confused. Am I not understanding this whole concept correctly?

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asked Nov 05 at 11:45 AM

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The test webpage will pop up if i simply type in localhost, so isn't this an indication that the web server is working?

Nov 05 at 01:34 PM HalJordan

All it tells you is that the web server is running. It says nothing more, not even that it can be contacted by another host on the same network.

Nov 06 at 03:59 PM Cry Havok ♦
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Work through this guide to get your troubles solved.

Btw, http:\farside.dyndns.org is wrong syntax not working with browsers, and http://www.farside.dyndns.org/ (www or another prefix - wildcard) is not supported with the free version, but http://farside.dyndns.org/ is correct.

I did not do anything to my router.. should I have verified the correct port is being used?

Yes, this is likely the main problem. You must forward port 80 on your router to the internal IP address of your webserver. However, it may be that your ISP blocks inbound port 80, so you need to use a different port. But try with port 80 first.

The Abyss server is using port 80 and when it installed it did not tell me the port was not open or anything like that.

No, why should it? How would it ever "know" what you want to do with it, like accessing from outside and with what hostname? For the webserver it isn't even relevant that you have a router at all. A webserver is just a webserver, a program like MS Word.

The test webpage will pop up if i simply type in localhost, so isn't this an indication that the web server is working?

Partially yes. Can you also access it by its internal IP address from another computer in the same LAN? This is even more important and must work before you even can think about accessing it from outside.

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Please provide all the information requested in the guide that RotBlitz directed you to. With all that information we'll be better placed to try to help you.


At a guess, your problem relates to the port forwarding on your router. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with that particular model, and the screen captures you've provided are of little use. I suspect that Abyss Web Server is an alias for port 80/TCP, but it isn't at all clear what it means.

It may also be that, as mentioned in that guide you've already been directed to, that your ISP blocks port 80/TCP inbound. In that case you have to use a different port. How you do that is provided in the guides linked from that guide. Unfortunately because you've chosen not to provide the information about your router I can't provide any further help with that.

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You seem to have DHCP enabled for the computer running the webserver (not sure as you didn't execute "ipconfig /all"). You should assign it a static internal IP address outside the DHCP range (192.168.1.64 - 192.168.1.253) of your router. If you don't, your portforwarding rule does no longer work if the router assigns a new IP address to the computer.

Also, the port forwarding on your router seems to be configured wrong. You need to forward port 8000 (or whatever you have chosen) to the internal (static) IP address of the computer your webserver is running on, not to your public IP address, although this is named "Public IP". Maybe you're on the wrong configuration page? This firewall rule is of type inbound, not outbound.

Also, as outlined in the guide, you may not be able to access your webserver from inside your LAN using your hostname or public IP address at all, because many routers do not support loopback connections. You should be testing from outside instead. Don't forget to specify the port if you don't use standard port 80.


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Can you run that back by me in English?

It can't be more English than is. Are you sure being able to understand English? ;-)
According to your router's firewall settings (1st picture), you don't need to assign a static IP address to your computer, because the router uses the computer name and not the IP address. So the port forwarding should be fine unless you use a different port from 80.

As you do not use port 80, but 8000, you cannot simply select "Abyss Web Server" as the application, because this would forward port 80 which you don't use. Instead look if the drop down allows a selection like "user defined" where you likely can enter the port number (e.g. 8000) and the protocol (TCP) to be forwarded. If not, you can't use a different port from 80 with this router. Also, as a consequence, if your ISP blocks port 80, you are totally out of luck with this router.

The second picture of your firewall settings are rather irrelevant here and are related to the applications you run to access the internet from inside.

Additionally, couldn't I simply disconnect the wife's or my pc from the home network temporarily before using it to check the web page?

I would not know what this could be good for. I said you should test from outside your home network, and doing this would not test anything from outside. Btw, I tested for you (from outside), and port 8000 is not open yet.

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Thanks I have tried to do all the steps and there must be something I'm still missing. Here is my IP Config info. Below that is my forwarded port info also.

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I can access the web page from my wifes computer ( via the home network) using 192.168.1.66

I cannot access it using http://farside.dyndns.org/ or 74.240.173.194 on either machine.

What am I missing?

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answered Nov 05 at 09:40 PM

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According to the ShieldsUp website (with windows firewall off) port 80 is in "stealth" mode. I have no idea what that means but it sure doesn't look like it, "open". I'm trying to determine is the ISP is blocking it or not.

Nov 05 at 10:37 PM HalJordan

I tried changing my port to 8000 in the router's firewall settings and in the web servers settings and still, it doesn't work.

Nov 05 at 11:02 PM HalJordan
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The open port tool says, " An attempted connection to 74.240.173.194:8000 timed out. This typically indicates that traffic to that port is being actively blocked by either a firewall or your ISP."

My current WAN address is 74.240.190.31 ( it's changed from earlier)

I am using the DynDns update client and it appears to be working correctly.

I can revolve my host name to 74.240.190.31 via an NSLookup through my windows command prompt.

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At this point im up to steap 5 and as you can see from the abpove picture this is the way the portforwarding website tells me how to do this. (I associate an application in this case "Abyss Web Server" with my desired port ( in this case 8000) and set it to allow/active) I tried it since then using 8000 for the port ( configured both in the router and the webserver) because I understand 80 is blocked by At&t. I did not try 10080.

I use a 2wire 1701 HG-B

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Private Network Router Address: 192.168.1.254 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 DHCP Range: 192.168.1.64 - 192.168.1.253 Allocated: 4 Available: 186

Cannot exactly find wan ip in managment pages but found this in broadband link summary

Connection Information: • Internet Address: 74.240.190.31 • Hardware Address: 00:23:51:af:3f:38 • Key Code: 525Z-25Z4-6266-22AS-B2DC

I'm using windows 7 64 bit home premium with service pack 1

That should be all the info the page asked for (though out of order) or all I can find to give you. If you need more, I'll try to find it.

I currently have windows firewall disabled. I even tried to allow everything through my router by using the "Allow all applications (DMZplus mode)" and that didn't seem to help any. That's why my IP changed from earlier.

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